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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:55 pm    Post subject: Wichita Falls formerly announced as moving to CIF Reply with quote

http://gocif.net/news-h/920-wf-nighthawks-announce-move-to-cif.html

9/12/17

>>WICHITA FALLS - The Wichita Falls Nighthawks are officially moving to the Champions Indoor Football League.

Nighthawks Owner Drew Carnes, along side League Commissioner Ricky Bertz and Head Coach Billy Back made the announcement Tuesday, indoor football is returning for another season. They say it's a decision, that will hopefully keep the Nighthawks in Wichita Falls for years to come.

"It's not too hard to see that financially that this has not been successful and they are a lot of markets that are successful," said Carnes. "But the bigger thing than the market, for me was the league."

And that's one reason why Carnes said the team is leaving the Indoor Football League (IFL) and joining the Champion Indoor Football (CIF) league.<<

FYI same day IFL announced poaching Bloomington and WM
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:28 pm    Post subject: Orando expansion via TB? Reply with quote

Anyone hearing new rumors of Orlando coming back via Tampa Bay ownership?

How about you AFDave?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Orando expansion via TB? Reply with quote

4th&long wrote:
Anyone hearing new rumors of Orlando coming back via Tampa Bay ownership?

How about you AFDave?


Nada. The only "knowledgeable" expansion rumors are the ones that were floating around the Arenabowl and have been mentioned here before, with three new northeast teams.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Orando expansion via TB? Reply with quote

afdave wrote:
4th&long wrote:
Anyone hearing new rumors of Orlando coming back via Tampa Bay ownership?

How about you AFDave?


Nada. The only "knowledgeable" expansion rumors are the ones that were floating around the Arenabowl and have been mentioned here before, with three new northeast teams.


Thanks AFDave. People are throwing out anything now.

BTW we hear Newark & Albany, what was the 3rd Northeast team?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait for it.....wait for it.....

take it away dave...... Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of right now, I can tell you TAM is not bringing ORL back.

The third team in the NE should be PIT
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stormjr wrote:
As of right now, I can tell you TAM is not bringing ORL back.

The third team in the NE should be PIT

Now that would be a great pick up - perfectly placed between Phil/Balt/Wash (and NJ/NY) and Cleveland. Filling in the gap. A big FB market and no NBA team competition too. I assume it would be the Pitt Penguins owner.

I hope that is true.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th&long wrote:
stormjr wrote:
As of right now, I can tell you TAM is not bringing ORL back.

The third team in the NE should be PIT

Now that would be a great pick up - perfectly placed between Phil/Balt/Wash (and NJ/NY) and Cleveland. Filling in the gap. A big FB market and no NBA team competition too. I assume it would be the Pitt Penguins owner.

I hope that is true.

I hope we get ORL instead of PIT or another northeastern team because that still leaves Tampa Bay on an island far south of anyone else.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TargetToad wrote:
4th&long wrote:
stormjr wrote:
As of right now, I can tell you TAM is not bringing ORL back.

The third team in the NE should be PIT

Now that would be a great pick up - perfectly placed between Phil/Balt/Wash (and NJ/NY) and Cleveland. Filling in the gap. A big FB market and no NBA team competition too. I assume it would be the Pitt Penguins owner.

I hope that is true.

I hope we get ORL instead of PIT or another northeastern team because that still leaves Tampa Bay on an island far south of anyone else.


True and TB is great franchise and great fans but Jax is in the NAL so that city is out and Orlando NBA owner doesn't look to interested at the moment.

a Cleveland > Pitt > Philly-Balt-Wash > NJ with ^ Albany

... well that's a tight sweet setup. Rome wasn't built in a day - take time and do it right
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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True and TB is great franchise and great fans but Jax is in the NAL so that city is out and Orlando NBA owner doesn't look to interested at the moment.


Not only that but Orlando may end up getting a NAL team.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th&long wrote:
TargetToad wrote:
4th&long wrote:
stormjr wrote:
As of right now, I can tell you TAM is not bringing ORL back.

The third team in the NE should be PIT

Now that would be a great pick up - perfectly placed between Phil/Balt/Wash (and NJ/NY) and Cleveland. Filling in the gap. A big FB market and no NBA team competition too. I assume it would be the Pitt Penguins owner.

I hope that is true.

I hope we get ORL instead of PIT or another northeastern team because that still leaves Tampa Bay on an island far south of anyone else.

What about Atlanta, Charlotte, Miami, or even Nashville?

True and TB is great franchise and great fans but Jax is in the NAL so that city is out and Orlando NBA owner doesn't look to interested at the moment.

a Cleveland > Pitt > Philly-Balt-Wash > NJ with ^ Albany

... well that's a tight sweet setup. Rome wasn't built in a day - take time and do it right

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's not Pitt....

Dave why have you forsaken this thread.... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/37365573435_a1b844f100_o.jpg

KC for sale in CIF, Shurts (AZ) rumored one interested party; also Omaha for sale. Yes that's a rumor but it could be interesting for IFL. Obviously KC is a major market, and will need more money upfront to promote. But KC does not fit the AFL-Butera Model.

Maybe CIF isn't as stable as presented.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th&long wrote:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/37365573435_a1b844f100_o.jpg

KC for sale in CIF, Shurts (AZ) rumored one interested party; also Omaha for sale. Yes that's a rumor but it could be interesting for IFL. Obviously KC is a major market, and will need more money upfront to promote. But KC does not fit the AFL-Butera Model.

Maybe CIF isn't as stable as presented.


How do you people take this stuff as fact? He changes the sheet often. It's fun to discuss but he's been wrong just as much as he's been right.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstnten.net wrote:
4th&long wrote:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/37365573435_a1b844f100_o.jpg

KC for sale in CIF, Shurts (AZ) rumored one interested party; also Omaha for sale. Yes that's a rumor but it could be interesting for IFL. Obviously KC is a major market, and will need more money upfront to promote. But KC does not fit the AFL-Butera Model.

Maybe CIF isn't as stable as presented.


How do you people take this stuff as fact? He changes the sheet often. It's fun to discuss but he's been wrong just as much as he's been right.


Please reread - I clearly said it was a rumor - twice.

And it is fun to discuss - much of the rumors or speculation (my own included) have come true. Other's don't - but like you said its fun!!! wooohoo
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th&long wrote:
Firstnten.net wrote:
4th&long wrote:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4402/37365573435_a1b844f100_o.jpg

KC for sale in CIF, Shurts (AZ) rumored one interested party; also Omaha for sale. Yes that's a rumor but it could be interesting for IFL. Obviously KC is a major market, and will need more money upfront to promote. But KC does not fit the AFL-Butera Model.

Maybe CIF isn't as stable as presented.


How do you people take this stuff as fact? He changes the sheet often. It's fun to discuss but he's been wrong just as much as he's been right.


Please reread - I clearly said it was a rumor - twice.

And it is fun to discuss - much of the rumors or speculation (my own included) have come true. Other's don't - but like you said its fun!!! wooohoo


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that I look out here (on the boards).... I guess only Albany & Newark are really out in the ether.

There is a 3rd northeast Arena that may also get a team, although I am not at liberty to divuldge it. We'll see if it comes to pass.

I would say that it seems like the goal for the league is to get to 8 for 2018 apparently, hell or high water.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4th&long wrote:
KC for sale in CIF, Shurts (AZ) rumored one interested party; also Omaha for sale. Yes that's a rumor but it could be interesting for IFL.


KC potentially in the IFL? Interesting.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiderfan_MJ wrote:
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KC for sale in CIF, Shurts (AZ) rumored one interested party; also Omaha for sale. Yes that's a rumor but it could be interesting for IFL.


KC potentially in the IFL? Interesting.


BTW both those markets (Metro Stat Area, KC 2mm, Omaha .9mm) are perfect for IFL or NAL for that matter but geographically IFL only. And due to Butera model off AFL radar.

Omaha has a small arena though. IFL should be looking to coax these teams over.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When is Butera's contract up?

Is he safe?
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