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StormHawkeye

 Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Location: SILVER SPRING MD
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: Las Vegas |
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As badly as Las Vegas did this season, Jim Ferraro should not be allowed to run another AFL franchise again. This goof basically took the Gladiators and ran them into the ground.
Whoever suggested that Las Vegas go to af2, that would make sense, but you would have to realign the af2 so Las Vegas would be in the Western Division.
If Las Vegas were to go to af2, can anyone come up with a suitable divisoin alignment?
Thank you.
StormHawkeye (Leonard) _________________ LEONARD "HAWKEYE" WEIRICH
TAMPA BAY STORM FAN SINCE 1991
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temporary1357

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| I think Las Vegas should stay in AFL and be given another chance with another owner. |
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atxstranger

 Joined: 07 May 2007 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Ok If Las Vegas goes you end up with 31 teams (assuming Austin doesn't join them). In the interest of balance (which I am a big fan of) and trying to keep travel costs down, I would go with 8 4-team divisions. This assumes you find a 32nd team somewhere but this seems to make the most sense:
American Conference
Eastern Division
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton
Manchester
Mahoning
Albany
Midwest Division
Quad City
Green Bay
Ft Wayne
Cincinnati
Southern Division
Louisville
Tennessee Valley
Florida
South Georgia
Western Division
Spokane
Tri-Cities
Boise
Everett
National Conference
Southern Division
Alabama
Arkansas
Bossier-Shreveport
[Team to be named later]
Central Division
Tulsa
Oklahoma City
Lubbock
Amarillo
Southwest Division
Rio Grande
Texas
Corpus Christi
Laredo
West Division
Las Vegas
Central Valley
Stockton
Bakersfield
I am at a loss for Southern Division as the other teams in the national kind of line up well, so it could be the division with the most travel. Now I can move teams based on where that new team is, but a lot of those divisions are pretty much stuck the way they are.
The other alignment that may work would be a 5 5-team division and 1 6-team division setup, but you could end up with a few teams having some pretty significant travel for their division games that way. Like who would end up in the American East and who gets the long travel dates in the American West. In the National, you could end up with a team with long travel dates to either South Texas or Central California. _________________ I think I've yelled myself to an aneurysm... |
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atxstranger

 Joined: 07 May 2007 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ok So I did a little work on this and here is what my alignment would look like on a map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112179980348342027321.0004345000b075645b5bd&ll=37.370157,-97.119141&spn=40.136127,78.310547&z=4&om=1
Albuqurque being the 32nd team creates a problem for, though I suppose you could swap Texas for them to get a bit better balance. If Albuqurque becomes Austin its not so bad but there would still be some reoom for juggling. There are also a couple of teams that are regional to each other that should probably find a way to play each other just for fan interest.
And now that I see this layout, I don't know how you get to a 6 division alignment that keeps travel costs down for everyone because with the 8 teams in the west, at best two teams will have long trips to play conference games. _________________ I think I've yelled myself to an aneurysm... |
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StormHawkeye

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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To atxstranger:
Thank you. You were a big help, my friend.  _________________ LEONARD "HAWKEYE" WEIRICH
TAMPA BAY STORM FAN SINCE 1991
FAN OF THE af2 SPOKANE SHOCK SINCE 2006 |
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blaze_burley

 Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Next thing we know Ferrio will be on Elways side  |
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sidelines

 Joined: 01 Jan 2001 Location: Cleveland
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| blaze_burley wrote: | Next thing we know Ferrio will be on Elways side  |
he'll have to be, if it gets him an ally in the AFL... Baker is ready to boot his ass out... _________________
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StormHawkeye

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Then Commissioner Baker ought to boot Ferraro out - that bum screwed up two pretty damn good AFL franchises. _________________ LEONARD "HAWKEYE" WEIRICH
TAMPA BAY STORM FAN SINCE 1991
FAN OF THE af2 SPOKANE SHOCK SINCE 2006 |
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jerseyboy92

 Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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the AFL needs to get rid of Ferraro cause it's obivous that he's just terrible as a owner. either that, or they will move, possibly over to Boston _________________ Proud Founder of the Anti Elway League Organization. Determined to stop Elway from ruining the AFL since 2007!!!!
SACK VICK!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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sidelines

 Joined: 01 Jan 2001 Location: Cleveland
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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| jerseyboy92 wrote: | | the AFL needs to get rid of Ferraro cause it's obivous that he's just terrible as a owner. either that, or they will move, possibly over to Boston |
It won't be Boston, they already have an ownership group with rights to the area... _________________
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temporary1357

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| jerseyboy92 wrote: | | the AFL needs to get rid of Ferraro cause it's obivous that he's just terrible as a owner. either that, or they will move, possibly over to Boston |
Moving to Boston won't solve anything if you don't kick Ferraro out. |
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ManchVegas

 Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Location: Bedford, NH
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| We New England arena football fans already have an af2 team - the Manchester Wolves. We don't need another. |
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StormHawkeye

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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We're talking AFL in Boston, ManchVegas, not af2.
Boston already has a NLL team. Now it's time for the AFL to come to Beantown. _________________ LEONARD "HAWKEYE" WEIRICH
TAMPA BAY STORM FAN SINCE 1991
FAN OF THE af2 SPOKANE SHOCK SINCE 2006 |
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Ewok

 Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Why in God's name did you bump this? |
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only1scratch

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| sidelines wrote: |
It won't be Boston, they already have an ownership group with rights to the area... |
Who owns those rights?? |
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sidelines

 Joined: 01 Jan 2001 Location: Cleveland
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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CLEAR!!! _________________
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VooDoo's Kelly Bones

 Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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they have people already in boston that have persuaded AFL in boston _________________ New Orleans The Official Destination of Arena Bowl! |
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Ewok

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| VooDoo's Kelly Bones wrote: | | they have people already in boston that have persuaded AFL in boston |
Please speak in English. |
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VooDoo's Kelly Bones

 Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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persone che hanno già in Boston che hanno persuaso AFL in Boston
Okay Ewok, there you go. Maybe you know Italian. |
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StormHawkeye

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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| VooDoo's Kelly Bones wrote: | persone che hanno già in Boston che hanno persuaso AFL in Boston
Okay Ewok, there you go. Maybe you know Italian. |
I don't speak Italian, VooDoo, but what you said about Boston having AFL ownership rights made a lot of sense.
I'd like to know one thing - when do you think the AFL will ever come to Boston?
Leonard _________________ LEONARD "HAWKEYE" WEIRICH
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